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Hello everyone! Hope you all are having a great holiday and have some fun plans for new years. I'm chilling out at my dad's house which means WiFi! So now I can actually make these subgenres for the fantasy folder, even though we discussed changing them a month ago...
My home PC is so old it doesn't understand WiFi or the dA backroom, which makes handling groups kind of rough. But I have a new Mac being built so theoretically I'll be an amazing admin. (Because it was all technical problems....... ;))

All right, so thanks to everyone that commented and gave advice on the subgenres that we should use.

There are A LOT of fantasy genres that have been isolated over the years, and some that only seem to appear in cartoons and movies and less often in literature, so it was a bit of a battle. Also, while the fantasy folder is our largest folder, there aren't thousands of stories, so I don't think that every sub-genre is going to get representation. Ergo I've compiled a list that I think does a good job of dividing the Fantasy folder into more manageable bites. It is by no means complete or even expansive, and if your novel best fits into something else, let me know. I can always build you one. I just don't want a bunch of empty categories.

So here's what I thought were the likely suspects.

NEW FOLDERS:

Dark Fantasy - often have a dark, brooding tone. Typically have horror or supernatural elements but not always. Examples would be like Dark Tower or Sandman.

Science Fantasy - Has true applications of science or uses science fiction to come across fantastic or supernatural elements. Examples are Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, Hunger Games. Often occurs in the future or in an alternate time stream.

Arcane Fantasy - Uses magic as a central device. Examples are Harry Potter, Disc World (more towards the later half of the series).

Comic Fantasy - Fantasy with a humorous tone. Often are self-aware and joke about conventions in the fantasy genre. Slayers is an anime but it's like that. Alice in Wonderland could be considered a comic fantasy also.

Medieval - Tolkien style! Knights, archers, dragons, monarchic governmental structures, and European folklore.

Supernatural Fantasy - Uses supernatural elements like ghosts, oracles, demons, vampires, but without the scary tone associated with horror. Like Twilight, Hell Boy, Buffy.


Other options that we may need (now or later):

Magic realism
Contemporary
Dying earth
Engine Punk
Steam punk
Fairy tale
Parody
Fantastique
Hard fantasy
Heroic fantasy
Juvenile
Mythic fiction
Paranormal romance
Super hero
Weird west
New Weird
Gothic


I used Wikipedia extensively for this list, even though it's kinda messed up in my opinion... And a couple I think could exist outside of fantasy, like gothic and super hero when we need to expand our library again. But yeah, let me know if this list is ok or if you want to add something else, and then I'll go around and ask you what subgenre you want for your folders.

Huzzah!
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k-h-o Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Oh Wikipedia...they have everything, but there organization system for genres I distaste, but I think what you have is a good list. Might I make a suggestion for those who cross-over genre's or don't know? For those who genre blend, its great and wonderful, but if they're seeking publication at a later date, pick the top 2 genre's that encompass their novel. Publishers won't look at a novel with the author doesn't know what genre they're working in or can't seem to decide (yes, can be very annoying or whatever, but it's for the publishers to be able to market the book better.) I recommend this list, which I've already given: [link] for that genre-blending crowd (there's much listed) and for those who have got a clue at first how to genre-define their novel.

Also, quick question, the "juvenile" you've listed. That's merely young adult right? Which encompasses contemporary bildungsroman, memoirs or autobiographies, and general YA drama...essentially keeping to realism. I'm just curious how you want to define this one because it can also include fantasy, science fiction (and all the subgenre "punks" there can be), thriller, and romance...) Or are we just talking about the fantasy folder here? I tend to think too much when it comes to genre, ha ha.
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SanguineAthena Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Writer
Yeah it's really easy to get caught up in genres... there are so many and so few ways to define them properly. Like how Wikipedia was insisting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer was magic fantasy. Well, I guess there's some magic, but then other parts insist that it's horror, oh no, it's satire, wait, it's gotta be magic realism, no, magic girl, no!... it's easy to make a case for a piece of work to be in many folders, but I think most people have a favourite that I hopefully have covered.

Juvenile was more young adult (again I'm borrowing from good ol' wikipeeds)and anything directed at teens or younger (typically with a young protagonist with direct language), but then again if someone wanted to write an immature comedy and put it in there I wouldn't argue with them XD
.... or maybe I would. :D
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k-h-o Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The problem is that genre isn't clearly defined save for the major ones such as comedy, romance, scifi, fantasy, etc. Plus the blending and personal opinion change perspective of what certain genres include.

There is a new genre being talked about lately called "New Adult." A friend of mine talks about it her: [link]

I'll trust your judgement with categorizing everything and just wait and see how you do it.
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sivrel Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Should work for now. Although that makes it tempting to make a superhero story here :rofl:
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SanguineAthena Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Writer
Hahaha I know! I think we've all been affected by super hero stories to some extent and it had never occurred to me to write one until I was researching genres. Considering how popular they are lately, I'm surprised there haven't been more original super hero stories made. I imagine they are all going into Batman fan fiction >.>
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sivrel Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Or superman fan-fiction. Honestly superheroes seem to be largely absent from traditional novels. It's like some kind of unwritten rule for the genre.
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SanguineAthena Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Writer
Yeah, I think it's probably a hard genre to write without coming off as silly. Most super hero stories that are popular get quite dark pretty quickly to avoid that. Like X-Men would probably be quite dumb it if wasn't for all the emotional strife. Superman... I don't think would be as popular now if he hadn't gotten popular when people were looking for simple goodness. Not that I'm an expert on comics or anything. But maybe it would be something cool to try. I've never tried anything like that.
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sivrel Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Well I saw one idea for the genre that might work for writing, ditch the tights. Given that might take out a certain popular element for the subgenre.
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SanguineAthena Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Professional Writer
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yes!
"I put on my tights and cape, and smelled the oaky night air, tainted with lies and crime."

I think it works in comics for the visual idea of, holy fuck, look at how massive this guy's ______ is/are! But in novels... I don't think there's any reason for them to wear tights in their own head. Unless it's for humour. So what does a modern super hero wear? Jeans and a band t-shirt?
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sivrel Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Thinking in a shows like Alphas or heroes it's mostly ordinary clothes or uniforms if part of an organization (and practical uniforms at that not tights and capes.) Powered armour supers aren't very practical for this type of story. Psychics, subtle mutants, or spell-casters would work perfectly. Not quite sure about paragon type characters though (btw paragons are the subtype Superman fall into.)
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